Minutes of the JDCMG Meeting
October 26 and 27, 2004, UCB
The meeting started with introductions. Attendance included representatives from UCB, UCB-Lab, UCD, UCI, UCLA, UCOP, UCSB, UCSF Med. Center, and UCSD.
A common vendor scorecard across all campuses has a lot of support but it was agreed
the place to start with an expanded share inventory. We agreed to develop a shared
spreadsheet that would list the core key vendors and ask each campus to provide the
following information:
Vendor name
Campus
Annual amount
Date of your maintenance renewal
Date when you plan to replace/upgrade
Product type |
Product name
Vendor contact
UC Contact - from JDCMG
Platform
Software
Hardware |
We also would have links to Gartner information about each vendor including company profile
with financial viability, market position, market trend, environmentally aware, support of
minorities, etc.
In addition to the above information, we will have a drop down high, medium, low rating
for each campus to provide feedback on level of satisfaction for the vendors:
There was a concern that there would be objections in purchasing departments so we each a
greed to send a note to our purchasing people that we were doing it. We reached Agreement that
this is not to be shared with the vendors.
The vendors we want to include as starting are:
IBM
CA
Compuware
Sun
EMC
Mobis
STK
NetApp
Dell
HP |
Cisco
Microsoft
Redhat
Novell
Sybase
Oracle
IronMountain
McData
Brocade
IBI |
Veritas
Symantec
BMC
GoldenGate Software
Hyperion
Cognos
Informatica
Foundry
Xerox
SAS
VPS |
Resellers
Siemens
Mainline
Allen Systems
Source One
MSI
DSS
CSC
Anacom
|
Shel will write a template for the above and include a process so each campus can add vendors. Charlotte will get it
added to the Web site with the capability to have members only update it.
UCLA has been doing recharge based on full cost accounting. They have done a "tax" for
things like telephones in the past. They had previously done a full cost accounting but
it was never accepted. Don Worth is now writing a proposal to do "technology tax" to fund
key pieces of shared infrastructure. Below is a recap of some of their process/ procedures:
- Recharge: Data Center services big sell is 24 x 7 support. Often departments have only one person
available to support environments and that isn't sustainable.
- Colocation @ UCLA: don't want give departments access and they strongly want them to
use central sys adm services. Basically colocation provided includes system admin.
- They have developed "Powerunits", simple server, 1 powerunit. Small database 2 powerunits,
Data Warehouse is 8 units, $600/month per powerunit (space and sysadmin space). Includes backup
services, sys adm, network, and rack units. They are doing it for about 128 application servers
(internal AIS department servers). 15-20 application develop servers from outside.
Staff of 7 distributed server Sys Admins. They put everything on the same network. If the
customer is going to do the sys admin, we will likely put them on their own VLAN. Hardware
is always purchased, server and disks, by the department that owns the applications.
- They use a time sheet applications they developed in house to show how much effort
per application. They keep track approximately how many hours they put into servers.
They spend about 30-40 hours per powerunit per year. They modify their rates every
fiscal year. Its always been within 10%, it has gone down more than its gone up.
Much of their funding is based on permanent allocation for service
UCSF: Mark indicated they have a very high regulation requirements for HIPPA
compliance which includes server compliance so departmental servers are likely. In the most
recent times they are doing just their first proposal. The customer is purchasing a new server
and wants full service on it. Startup costs including rack space, installation, software
licenses for the server (OS, security), network connections (on the data center network),
tape backup, for $3500 startup and monthly $395. $12.50/month per rack unit.
$110/CPU/Month sys adm, $25 per network connection, $25 backup.
DAVIS: Windows servers support requires more support staff than UNIX on the order of
3 windows admins for 30 and 7 unix admins for 150. Unix is primarily solaris, some HPUX and a little
bit of linux. The recharge rates are $67/hour for sysadm and database admin. They propose on
expected time but only bill on actual time used. For the actual housing, it is by rack unit per
month. They originally charged on a cost recovery over three years but have gone to charging by
monthly units. They require that customers have hardware maintenance costs. They calculate
based on actual tape used (based on nightly storage costs). That encourages them to end of
life retention sets. They track all the time spent based on an internal home grown application
to track time. They do not include staff costs for things like backups, operations, etc as those
are core funding.
UCSB: Total budget is $3M. $1.6M total recharge. 80% of that is centrally funded.
The rest is from small 10k increments for many server kinds of recharges. They have changed platforms
(added unix and windows servers) out of the mainframe cost center. They have done it buying used equipment
and stretching staff costs. The model discourages the use of the central resources and encourage the use
of things that are not on the central recharge so local departments are creating their own shadow organizations.
Their collocation with full system administration is $300/month. That includes a 1/10th of an FTE.
They have some unattended operations between 9am and 6am.
We did not get to these this meeting and they will move forward to future
discussion.
- Conference Call in January 12th (Wednesday)
- Vendor Scorecard Demo
- Service Level Agreements
- Next Face to Face Meeting is March 04 at UCI
For questions or changes to the minutes please contact Charlotte Klock,
Director, UCSD Data Center, (858)822-1223. |